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What is intermediary French ?

I saw this question posted on the Anglo Idiot forum, but I think it is quite a fascinating question to be fair.

So what is intermediary French ? So what level is that ?

P.S Before you you throw your toys out of the pram, my French is carp.....as well as my English.
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Re: What is intermediary French ?

he Common European Framework divides learners into three broad divisions that can be divided into six levels; for each level, it describes what a learner is supposed to be able to do in reading, listening, speaking and writing. The following table gives an indication of these levels. A more thorough description of each level, with criteria for listening, reading, speaking, and writing, is available on the Internet.Devil [6]
Level group Level group name Level Level name Description
A Basic user A1 Breakthrough or beginner
  • Can understand and use familiar everyday expressions and very basic phrases aimed at the satisfaction of needs of a concrete type.
  • Can introduce themselves and others and can ask and answer questions about personal details such as where he/she lives, people they know and things they have.
  • Can interact in a simple way provided the other person talks slowly and clearly and is prepared to help.
A2 Waystage or elementary
  • Can understand sentences and frequently used expressions related to areas of most immediate relevance (e.g. very basic personal and family information, shopping, local geography, employment).
  • Can communicate in simple and routine tasks requiring a simple and direct exchange of information on familiar and routine matters.
  • Can describe in simple terms aspects of their background, immediate environment and matters in areas of immediate need.
B Independent user B1 Threshold or intermediate
  • Can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc.
  • Can deal with most situations likely to arise while travelling in an area where the language is spoken.
  • Can produce simple connected text on topics that are familiar or of personal interest.
  • Can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes and ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans.
B2 Vantage or upper intermediate
  • Can understand the main ideas of complex text on both concrete and abstract topics, including technical discussions in their field of specialization.
  • Can interact with a degree of fluency and spontaneity that makes regular interaction with native speakers quite possible without strain for either party.
  • Can produce clear, detailed text on a wide range of subjects and explain a viewpoint on a topical issue giving the advantages and disadvantages of various options.
C Proficient user C1 Effective operational proficiency or advanced
  • Can understand a wide range of demanding, longer clauses, and recognize implicit meaning.
  • Can express ideas fluently and spontaneously without much obvious searching for expressions.
  • Can use language flexibly and effectively for social, academic and professional purposes.
  • Can produce clear, well-structured, detailed text on complex subjects, showing controlled use of organizational patterns, connectors and cohesive devices.
C2 Mastery or proficiency
  • Can understand with ease virtually everything heard or read.
  • Can summarize information from different spoken and written sources, reconstructing arguments and accounts in a coherent presentation.
  • Can express themselves spontaneously, very fluently and precisely, differentiating finer shades of meaning even in the most complex situations.

These descriptors can apply to any of the languages spoken in Europe, and there are translations in many languages.

Source (where it can be read more clearly):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages


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Re: What is intermediary French ?

I was just about to write exactly what Norman has already posted.  But also had the following on the computer (from a different source), which usefully expresses exactly the same system, but in the form of a self-diagnosing statement on the part of the student.

Very Advanced
I speak and understand English completely fluently.

Advanced
I speak and understand very well but sometimes have problems with unfamiliar situations and vocabulary.

Pre-advanced
I speak and understand well but still make mistakes and fail to make myself understood occasionally.

Upper Intermediate       
I speak and understand well but still make mistakes and fail to make myself understood occasionally.

Intermediate        
I can speak and understand reasonably well and can use basic tenses but have problems with more complex grammar and vocabulary.

Low Intermediate
I can make simple sentences and can understand the main points of a conversation but need much more vocabulary.

Pre-Intermediate
I can communicate simply and understand in familiar situations but only with some difficulty.

Elementary
I can say and understand a few things in English.

Beginner       
I do not speak any English.
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Re: What is intermediary French ?

Very interesting.

So what level are you ?


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Re: What is intermediary French ?

I think that I am lots of levels, and I have met too many UK second year uni students in France who had lots of problems speaking and making themselves understood along with problems understanding.

My french is odd, primitive? naieve like a child's? still, I can do anything I want in France, and even when my own vocabulary was poor would still use the phone and sort stuff out.

So I cannot say what mine is, I only know I have no illusions about it!!!!
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Re: What is intermediary French ?

I am going to classes at B1-2 level. Some days I am at the B2 level and some days I barely make B1, depending on how tired I am, the context of the conversation, etc. B1 is what you need for citizenship. I have a rubbish accent. They tell me I sound like Petula Clark.
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Re: What is intermediary French ?

 lindal1000 wrote:
They tell me I sound like Petula Clark.


Well, if you will insist in going Downtown and instead of coming home you go and Sleep in The Subway, what do you expect?

A friend in need's a pest. Get rid.
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Re: What is intermediary French ?

Your a wise old 🦉 Idun.

I have met (and worked with) many French in the UK who would quite happily call themselves fluent in English but we're anything but. More rubbish to be fair.

But does it really matter if you can communicate ?
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