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Those Greves

I was talking to my DIL tonight about the strikes and for all she has not usually got much time for Macron, hopes that he holds out. She want France bringing into the 21st Century, properly.

She is furious with, well, I won't use the expletives she used to describe the grevistes from the SNCF and what she perceives as their greed. Their whining about unsocial hours blah di blah!

 As she has done more than her fair share of those for the SMIC as it happens, and my son actually works really anti social hours. I have, his Dad has. Lots of people do.

And then after we had put the world to rights, I put french news on, and the grevistes are going to harden their strike and I actually heard someone say, like a grave warning for ALL of France, that IF they did not win, then it would be catastrophic for France, and would affect everyone for the worse.



And that keeps turning round in my head, the idea that France as she stands, would find herself ruined, in a calamintous situation if the modernisation goes through.

I readily accept that changes do not always go through smoothly, but usually things sort themselves out in the end, but would things really end up that bad.

Maybe for some, ie: if many fonctionnaires actually found themselves au chomage, and who would care, really, would would, because many fonctionnaires are considered very privileged in France anyway, and once in, are there for life, or have been.

As it is, my son has to get to and from work and uses the train regularly and it is a nightmare at the moment. Going off to do his anti social hours, but only the cheminots count!


I do hope that Macron holds his ground, but I won't hold my breath either.

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Our youngest is also at the mercy of SNCF (though it does not make much difference if they are on strike or not sometimes!!) to get home from Uni for the weekends. I agree that reforms are necessary.

The endless quest to pay less but get more, be it from the private or public sector does not work. There seems to be downward spiral of "service" everywhere. UK/France commerce are keen to take your money, but if you pull aside the curtain when it comes to sorting a problem out afterward, you see what lack of people results in.

I too hope Macron holds his ground on this and University reforms too. Though sorting the resulting problems out will be just as hard.
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From what I understand, that whilst Macron may not be universally popular, and that there are fears that he is pushing too hard, it is also true that the strikers are not that well supported this time, even by the other unions, who have their own axes to grind.

As far as France is concerned, anyone with any level of comprehension understands that things have to change, and it is not, in the SNCF case that they will change conditions for the exiting staff, but only the new ones, as far as I have heard.  So what, that is progress, and needs must in this modern world.  How, anyone thinks that when a company is loosing so much money every year they can continue to support that is beyond my understanding of economics.

The miners strike and what happened to the mines and their jobs after it springs to mind (whether I supported it or not, the example is there), so if I were a striker I would very much be wary of eventually having no job at all if they continue along the path they seem to want to tread

Tough love and justice, but c'est la vie!



Judith
ex W1, via 47 and 11 and now [just] in 34, equidistant from Carcassonne, Narbonne and Béziers, where I hope we'll finally stay!!

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Macron is an EU cheerleader. He is also a confidant of the international banking elite.
The EU wants to de-nationalise SNCF and open up the French rail network to "competition" - and their man Macron is the man to do it.
That means he wants it to end up something resembling the mess that the rail franchises are in the UK.
The worldwide financial elite see SNCF as a cash cow that is ripe to be milked - think Virgin trains in the UK!
Macron's current policy of taking on the rail unions to reduce the future benefits and hence the costs of any new staff joining is a cost reduction measure to pave the way for the future privatisation of SNCF, maybe not during his presidential term but that's what he wants to do - as sure as eggs is eggs.
At any time the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is only a whim away.
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Rollocks👃🏻🤮
Ticking over, just about.
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Harnser wrote

..........................The EU wants to de-nationalise SNCF and open up the French rail network to "competition" - and their man Macron is the man to do it.
That means he wants it to end up something resembling the mess that the rail franchises are in the UK.
The worldwide financial elite see SNCF as a cash cow that is ripe to be milked - think Virgin trains in the UK!




Where is your evidence that Macron wants to follow the UK model of denationalisation?

There are other models and DB AG is doing very well thank you. Yes they too do suffer some strikes but nothing like SNCF.
Andy

A European Rahinja.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>andyh4 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Harnser wrote

..........................The EU wants to de-nationalise SNCF and open up the French rail network to "competition" - and their man Macron is the man to do it.
That means he wants it to end up something resembling the mess that the rail franchises are in the UK.
The worldwide financial elite see SNCF as a cash cow that is ripe to be milked - think Virgin trains in the UK!




Where is your evidence that Macron wants to follow the UK model of denationalisation?

There are other models and DB AG is doing very well thank you. Yes they too do suffer some strikes but nothing like SNCF.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Macron will follow whichever privatisation model his banker chums want - ie whichever makes them the most in fees, interest, franchise sales etc.
At any time the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is only a whim away.
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Rollocks, yet again
Ticking over, just about.
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