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I saw on the news today that a Headmaster is being reprimanded  for showing a Two Ronnies sketch at school, about a shop keeper and an arab in his shop.

I cannot remember seeing this sketch as I never liked the Two Ronnies, never found Ronnie Corbett funny. Although Four Candles is, I have seen that.

I will never speak french like a french person, if my life depended on it, I would not be able to get my tongue around a proper accent, and I make all sorts of mistakes, and I do have the mickey taken out of me. Friends do it a lot, and others do too.


Would it stop me speaking, no, should I be offended, WHY should I, it is often funny. 


Should anyone have been offended about a donkey's years old sketch??? Should it have been shown, who knows, it may have been on Gold tv last week.


At some point can't people calm down, there is enough on this planet that needs addressing other than a 'comedy' sketch.



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I used to like Till Death Do Us Part (Alf Garnett etc.) Which would be banned now.
But I think the writer's aim was to ridicule extreme racist views as a way modifying them
Also showing that other national groups have racist views.
(eg Spike Milligan as an Indian - "I hate Pakis.")

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Unfortunately that approach is no longer acceptable as the PC brigade definitely pack subtlety.

By the way, wasnt Spike Milligan mixed race?
Too thick for a PhD!
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Humour does change though. I doubt anyone under 30 would get the Two Ronnies, Morcome and Wise, Benny etc. Even I didn't really like them first time round. Some humour seems to be more timeless..I'm thinking of Dad's army, which basically poked fun and the social class divisions and snobbery of the day.. Even that though, I doubt holds much relevance for inner city kids. I would say the mistake he made was to assume humour from his day would be relevant or understood today.. nothing really to do with political correctness. If it's not funny then it's not funny.
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So you're saying he got reprimanded for showing something that isn't funny?
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I have no idea why he was reprimanded..but I would be reprimanded if I delivered a lesson or a plan that didn't meet the learning objectives of the module or course. If you were teaching about how humour changes over generations, or the representation of social class in humour, then it would seem very appropriate. I don't know the context of his lesson and neither does anyone else except for those involved.

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So..for the context.. It wasn't shown to children but at a parents evening, with the aim of illustrating the importance of communication between parents and teachers.
"The clip, titled “The Sheikh in the Grocery Store”, was played at a parents’ information evening at Archway School in Stroud, Gloucestershire.

The 1985 sketch features Ronnie Corbett, wearing dark makeup and an Arabic keffiyeh, mispronouncing the names of items on his shopping list.
As he enters the store, Ronnie Barker’s shopkeeper says: “Old Ali Baba’s a bit off course. Morning Abdul.”

Corbett’s character tries to buy a series of items off a shopping list, mispronouncing words including “chocolate mousse” and “tomato puree”.
Barker’s shopkeeper initially misunderstands and then tries to correct Corbett’s character, but he swiftly mimics the flawed pronunciations when the frustrated sheikh placed a pile of cash on the counter.
Several parents complained it was offensive “I love The Two Ronnies but showing someone with their face blacked up in order to laugh at their accent, in this day and age? I was furious.”
Another added: “The Two Ronnies are brilliant, but there’s just no place for this racist humour anymore.”
And "A 2016 study by broadcasting regulator Ofcom found modern-day television and radio audiences were less tolerant of racist or discriminatory words than ever before.
The research found context was important, with viewers more likely to accept offensive language in realistic situations.

Tony Close, director of content standards at Ofcom, said at the time: “People draw the line at racist and discriminatory language – participants felt this was the most unacceptable of all.
“Most people see these words as derogatory and insulting.”
In 2014, departing Ofcom chief Ed Richards said some 1970s comedies could longer be shown because modern-day viewers found them offensive.
He told The Independent: “[There are] comedies from the Seventies which had certain racial stereotypes in them which are unimaginable today and if they were shown people would find them offensive and that wouldn’t just be people from black and ethnic minority communities, it would be everybody.
“I think the country has moved on in a very important way there.”


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God, there were so many 70's sitcoms which weren't even all that funny at the time, many playing on racial stereotypes at worst, or at best using a token black person as the butt of cheap jokes.
Remember "Love thy neighbour" or "Rising Damp"? And there was that awful one about the language school which relied on nothing else but racial stereotypes for its entire premise.
As for "Dad's Army" I'm guessing the BBC has a reason for broadcasting it on a continuous loop for 50 years.
Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard.
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