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Re: Bloo*y school buses

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>woolybanana wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Smacks of nastiness to me, A's word against B's , one of which may be a load of terrified, damaged kids.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
After your first post I cannot believe you wrote this. You were pointing your finger at the driver before any facts were known.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

Whilst I agree with ANO’s view that speculation is pointless in the absence of hard facts, I’ve just seen a photograph of the crossing (pre-accident).

The crossing barriers are on the approach side only, thus no possibility of a vehicle being stopped on the crossing by a barrier being down on the exit side. There appears to be a kerb in the centre of the road, thus inhibiting an approaching vehicle from zig-zagging around the barrier (and anyway, a manœuvre which it would be hard to envisage a school bus undertaking.)

The most likely scenario would appear to be that there was a malfunction which left the barrier up despite an approaching train. Sad to say, but it was an umpteen thousand to one chance of a collision.

The only other possibility would be that for whatever reason, the bus crashed through the lowered barrier. Early witness reports seem to suggest that this didn’t happen.


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True, Gardian, but given the frequency of these crossing accidents in France over the last years, one would have thought a school bus driver would have been cautious.
Ticking over, just about.
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Were the barriers up or down at the time of the crash?
No one seems to know for certain.

https://www.ouest-france.fr/faits-divers/accidents/accident-de-millas-le-passage-niveau-t-il-fonctionne-correctement-5449356

There is mention in that report about whether the batteries were stolen or not.
At any time the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is only a whim away.
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This is the crossing, a fairly major road and visibility of the rail track not too good.

https://goo.gl/maps/QwYcVP4xgCs

In the absence of flashing lights to warn of an oncoming train I defy any driver to feel the need to exercise one iota of extra caution when driving across it so it's grossly unfair to say that a school bus driver might be at fault for not doing so either.

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I don't see the point of your post Wooly.

Nobody knows what happened here.

What is your problem with school buses ?
ner ner nee ner ner!!
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None of us knows what caused this, so it is too early to be blaming anyone or anything.

On the other hand those who deserve admiration are of courses  the rescue and medical services, but also the 'ordinary' people I saw on the news queueing up to give blood which is in rather short supply at the moment.
(I know that many of us cannot give blood in France because we lived in the UK at the period of mad cow disease.)

The lesson for me is that is a situation such as this  stop criticising and blaming others and do something practical if you can. If you can't help don't hinder.



The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.
- Bertrand Russell
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>alittlebitfrench wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">I don't see the point of your post Wooly.

Nobody knows what happened here.

What is your problem with school buses ?</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

School buses are involved in far too many accidents, many of them fatal, because they are often too big for the roads and driven too fast. Just check in Le Monde today to see some of the worst incidents.
Wasn't someone on this forum pushed into a ditch by one a few yours ago, which didnt even stop?
Solution is of course smaller vehicles, but then someone might have to pay more or earn less from the contract. Seems cheap to stop kids being slaughtered.
Ticking over, just about.
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