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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

Yes, exactly that is a very good reason why people do not usually move much.

Must say that I'm glad that you said notaire/state fees.

Of anyone in this little lot, taxes, notaire and estate agent, it is probably the notaire who pockets the least, as the taxes are a LOT.

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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

We went through https://laresidence.co.uk
We said the area we were interested in, the price and the properties that we took a liking to from her site. LR made appointments for us with 4 agents - 1 french, 3 english over 3 days as there was some distance between them ie St Hilaire, Notre Dame de Touche, Lassay Les Chateaux and Domfront. We bought the last house that we visited. The agent didn't show us the particulars I found them whilst browsing through his folder which he'd placed on the table and when I asked about it I got 'oh yes that's a minute's walk from here'. We made an offer that the english owners didn't accept so the agent reduced his fee from 16% to get the sale finalised.
“Until one has loved an animal, a part of one’s soul remains unawakened.” Anatole France
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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

Hang on, have I misunderstood, Mrs KG, the agent’s fee was 16%? If true, that is outrageous!
Ticking over, just about.
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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

16 % !!!!! You are having a laugh.

Buy direct from the owner. Quick calculation...that is 0 % agency fees.

I would never outside of a major city buy through an estate agent.

I WOULD ALSO NEVER....EVER.... engage with the services of a BRIT property non expert in France. Stay clear !!!

Especially those who claim to own the houses. If you know what I mean.
ner ner nee ner ner!!
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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>woolybanana wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Hang on, have I misunderstood, Mrs KG, the agent’s fee was 16%? If true, that is outrageous!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what he told us. If he was fibbing I don't know but we were told at the time (2003) that agents fees could be anywhere between 8% and 16% and I guess he would have had to pay some commission to LR.
“Until one has loved an animal, a part of one’s soul remains unawakened.” Anatole France
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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

Is this thread suggesting that if French agents were more like Anglophone ones they would sell more houses?
I wonder how they have managed so far without that thought...

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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

We chose the bestest of times to try and sell......... just as the crash happened!

So in the end we left the house in France and moved back to the UK anyway and as we were not there and it was 1k miles between our homes, left it with Guy Hoquet who sold it.

Just calculated and they took just under 4% commision. As I said, I negociated. Also the house was in good nick and I daresay that they reduced the commission as they knew they could sell it fairly quickly as opposed to some houses which would take an age.

So, ALBF, at some point one has to be practical. Ours was a french built home, in a french village, we really were the only brits there and it was bought by a french couple.



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Re: Dismal quality of real estate listings - agents, lift your game!

Norman wrote
Is this thread suggesting that if French agents were more like Anglophone ones they would sell more houses?
I wonder how they have managed so far without that thought...
Clearly either not that well, as they appear to need to charge colossal commissions in order to cover their overhead, or very well as they're selling loads of houses and still managing to persuade buyers and sellers that their input is worth anything up to 16% of the selling price.
I think the original post was suggesting ( I know, perish the thought that the French could get anything wrong ) that it's actually not difficult to understand basic marketing skills.

Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard.
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