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Re: violence in french schools

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>EuroTrash wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">

To be fair ALBF, Brits who come here to retire and live the dream are not going to be bothered much by any of this. -</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well they blôôdy should be bothered !!!

Is France just becoming just one big retirement home ?


What are they retiring too ?

Why do expats/immigrants retire to France ????

Why 'do' people retire to France ?
ner ner nee ner ner!!
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Why should they be bothered? I thought the whole point of retiring, was not to have to worry about all that carp any more, whatever country you're in.

I'm trying to retire, and if I ever manage it I will be very happy to draw a line on worrying about all those things. Except that between the UK keeping upping my retirement age, and CIPAV keeping losing my cotisations, it's worse than walking through treacle and probably easier to just keep working until I drop.

That's my reality at the moment. I guess we all have our own version but they're all equally valid.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>alittlebitfrench wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">

Idun, have you read about Grenoble recently. It seems (according to La Figaro) that it is become the drug capital of France. Large parts of the city are lost.

Brits looking to live the 'dream' need to have a reality check when it comes to France.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why retire in France? Perhaps to dream in Grenoble.
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Ah Grenoble, well it always did have more than it's fair  share of no go areas, just like Chambery does. Annecy not so bad, but not all of it is 'good' either.

And Grenoble always was bad, the Maire, died in a hunting accident?, another Maire jailed for corruption......... all the 'gang' related shootings/killings on a regular basis, and then there were kids shot by the police, yes, you don't need to even hazard a guess, they were not white, usually maghreb.


And yet, it is particularly bad at the moment, really bad, and yet there are some really good things happening there, and when all is said and done, it is beautifully placed sat in the valley with three mountain ranges surrounding it.

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ALBF, unless someone speaks really good french and knows France I have not got a clue as to why anyone would move to retire.

It has always been beyond me.

We knew that for our dotage we wanted to be back in the UK and as France had changed over the many years we were there, we knew that the UK had to and wanted to adapt before we were too old.

I simply did not fancy juggling with a foreign language in my old age......... and yet with Brexit, we may well end up back in France....... and that will be OK too. It wasn't as if we were unhappy in France, but I would rather be in the UK now.

The only thing I truly hated about France was the education system and sometimes when I watch the news, I think that things may have improved and then I see that some things have not and I feel so sad about it.

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 alittlebitfrench wrote:
Why 'do' people retire to France ?

We retired to France after spending almost 20 years of our working lives in Spain because we were fed up with the tourist crowds where we lived, and already had a small place here.

We decided to stay permanently in France after 3 years because we had found the bureaucracy here easier to deal with, especially in the case of anything involving cars and driving.

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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"unless someone speaks really good french and knows France I have not got a clue as to why anyone would move to retire"
I suppose that its main attraction for a few/some/many retirees, is as a well-earned extended holiday. Much like in the UK's pre-EU days, going on a world cruise was the aspirational thing to do when you retired. I seem to remember that being what a lot of people blew their lump sums on. Then joining the EU made it easy to retire to places like France and Spain and people latched onto that instead.
I totally understand that people need something to look forward to to keep them going, a kind of light at the end of the tunnel to keep them beavering away year after year, otherwise what's it all for (I say that as someone who never stuck a proper job for more than a couple of years - the light at the end of the tunnel never did it for me, but I admired people who had more sticking power than I did).
The problem being that when you go on a world cruise it's obvious you need to keep a home to come back to, whereas when you move to France or Spain or wherever to enjoy your first taste of freedom, there is no return date on your ticket so you don't think about it.
Maybe post Brexit world cruises will come back into fashion as the way to spend the kids' inheritance.
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It doesn't matter where you are. Often people do not consider the implications of no longer working and how they are going to fill their time.

And the very idea that ALL people move abroad and learn the language, the culture or even try and understand how things 'work' the bureaucracy etc is apparently not what many do, or have the intention of doing.

Just look at how many posts we get about finding Drs or Dentists that speak english, and english speaking this that and the other. And how does this that and the other work........... and these days it is ALL on the web and for France amazingly in frenchWhistles [Www], not like the dark ages pre internet.

As I have always said, the move to France or where ever, is too often beyond my comprehension. And sometimes I do understand it.




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