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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

I can't see where the problem lies. My daughter travels here regularly with her two children who have different surnames from her. It has only ever been mentioned once and that was at the English end and she just explained that she was divorced.

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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

I've noticed in another post by hstraf that he is French, but his wife is American, I don't know if the problem lies there?

Cathy


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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

 Cat wrote:
I've noticed in another post by hstraf that he is French, but his wife is American, I don't know if the problem lies there?

If he is French, why should he be asking for an English to French translation?

CJL
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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Russethouse wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Perhaps it would help if the OP explains the incident that makes him thinks such a letter would be an advantage </td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Certainly.

First, yes.. I am French (Canadian by birth, but also French because my Father was French), and my wife is also French (American by birth, but also French because she is married to me and applied for citizenship).

We have lived in France for the previous 5 years. We did not speak French before moving to France.

So... my wife went to North America to visit family, with the kids. (Two were born in France, and the other in Canada.)

When she returned to France, she was questioned by the French immigration authorities. She had French passports for everyone, including her Carte d'identie, etc...

And she was told that, "It might be a good idea to travel with a letter of permission from your husband, to show you are allowed to travel with the children out of the country".

I actually received a phone call from some guy at the airport asking if my wife had permission to travel with my children.

So ya. This happens. It shouldn't. Of course not. The whole thing was rediculous and absolutely insane. I can only imagine the "reason" might have been the oddity of my wife's broken French and three kids with French passports...

.. but whatever the reason, it happened.

So... to avoid the situation again in the future, I figured I'd take 10 minutes and get a translation for a letter she can keep with her when she travels with the kids alone.

It seems a lot easier to comply with this "suggestion", rather then her making a big deal and trying to point out the law and her rights and whatever to the immigration/customs officers.

Believe me, nobody was as *** off as I was when she got home and told me why I received this phone call. I went straight to our mairie and told him what happened. Unfortunately, there was no paperwork given to her to show the name of the officer who questioned her and called me. We even tried tracing the phone call I received, but it wen to some switchboard at the airport and could not be tied down to any particular officer who made the call.

So.. somewhere in the immigration/customs office in Paris there works a functionaire who obviously has no idea that it's perfectly ok for a woman to travel with her kids.. without her husbands written consent.

(And just to lighten the mood a bit... we've had many good laughs about this whole incident. I often have tried to tell my wife she must also have my permission to leave the house, drive the car, etc. So far she seems intent on doing her own thing without my permission, and I'm still trying to find out to whom I should report such direct flaunting of my absolute authority.)

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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

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These are the people who deal with passport control at the airports. I would get in touch with them and complain and ask for a letter from them to stop this happening in future. Rather than playing to the tune of some fonctionnaire who does not know their job.

I personally would also get in touch with my deputé.

I would also get in touch with the american embassy and complain bitterly too,  but that is just me.

 


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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

Personally I don't think it was an entirely unreasonable suggestion. Surely it's better to be sure the children should be with the adult in charge of them (whether male or female), if there seems to be any anomaly, than just accept it's all right? I would not object to carrying a letter from my husband if I was travelling alone with our children (not that they are young any longer); I would also expect him to do the same. Don't forget children can be abducted or taken overseas illegally and passports can be forged.
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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

Good God! Someone asks for some simple help with a translation and you lot want his life history.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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Re: How to translate one sentence from English to French?

 idun wrote:
I would get in touch with them and complain and ask for a letter from them to stop this happening in future. Rather than playing to the tune of some fonctionnaire who does not know their job.

I personally would also get in touch with my deputé.

I would also get in touch with the american embassy and complain bitterly too...

Well, I might do all of those things also.  But in the meantime, if I could avoid problems for my wife by providing her with a letter, I would try to provide her with the letter.


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