The Riff-Raff Element said:
don't suppose that it is co-incidence that many of the most vocal British critics of French education are those who turned up here with older children.
And mine were both born in France. There were moments when being forreners worked against us with some of the homework we didn't have a cat in hell's chance of helping them, never mind the kids knowing either. But really mine had the same treatment as french kids and it suited some and they flourished in the system. Those that don't fit in neatly, usually do not.
As on observer of life, the interesting thing was the body language of the teachers during those school council meetings, and I did a lot of them, especially college and with those that are called professeurs. The creme de la creme and they sat upright, head and chins held high, the tone, well it was if they themselves had given the children these gifts that they were obviously born with. Then the average kids and their body language would change position as they derided the average kids for not being bette. And those who had problems, well the figurative knives were out and they became Gollum like creatures, snarling and full of wickedness and if even one of them had wanted to say anything good, or give encouragement, they had not the courage to say it in my presence at least.
I think it is forgotten on here as to how french kids get on in their own system and the redoubling etc or being banged into a no hope segpa. Beware anyone whose child can not follow the chosen path to follow of being above average and not being a deviant.
My problem is that I am not just inetersted in me and mine. Ofcourse I am interested in mine too, but I am always interested in those around me. In the early days, when we didn't realise the problems we were going to have, I did a lot for other parents at the school. Maybe I was braver or more stupid than they were, or just did things a little differently. I would contact the inspecteur directly, and even if he returned my letters telling me to mind my own business, then he still did as I had asked. I was elected to the school council incidentally, it wasn't as if I was 'just' writing. Also, as he had returned the letters, I took it that he had not kept a copies either.
So complaints about the french system, well, there are many reports out there, making more or less the comments I have made for years and by french people, who are qualified to make these comments too.
I posted a week or so ago about La Bouture. Still going, a group of college/lycee teachers who in the 1990's were alarmed about the drop out rate and poor performance in their establishments and trying to find methods to help the kids, now isn't that wonderful. Sadly none worked where my kids were schooled.