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Re: Bloo*y school buses

I think it's wrong to start such a thread before anyone knows what happened. A bit of research shows that France has a dreadful record of deaths/injuries at level crossings, this year alone 30 people have been killed on crossings (even before yesterday's tragedy) so ignoring the fact that the latest deaths involved a school there is clearly a problem, I was also very surprised to learn that nearly 20% of level crossings here have no barrier.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

And of course school bus accidents only happen in France. This is from today’s news;
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-42363808

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Re: Bloo*y school buses

And the SNCF is working to correct the problem; they are progressing so fast that it will take 2000 years to correct the problem at the rate of five per year.

Ultimately the driver has a duty of care and in these circumstances is always responsible. Not nice to say I know, but true.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

Sorry Wooly but once again the words are emanating from your rear end and not your brain.
Even if it were 5% per year it would be 200 not 2000 years.

You jumped on a bus driver, who may be proven to be completely innocent and now you jump on the rail company. It seems your bile is directed at whomsoever you think could just be to blame at the immediate instant in time.

So here is your chance to go off on yet another irrelevant tirade (in the absence of any hard evidence except the death toll). in some circles it has been suggested that the batteries that power the links to the warning lights and the barriers may have been stolen. So now you can vent your ire at every scumbag that had ever helped themselves.

As ANO said yesterday and Norman has repeated today, let's wait for some facts before acting like a 19th century lynch mob - possibly your era Wooly, not mine.
Andy

A European Rahinja.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

Andy, not 5% but 5-7 crossings altogether (Le Monde) which will take 2000 years.

Regardless of the state of the crossing, my point about the driver's responsibility remains valid.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

I have never heard of a problem with school buses in France.

I have to admit, I'm a bit lost on this one Wooly.

Bus and lorry drivers in France are very well trained compared to the UK and other countries.
ner ner nee ner ner!!
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

My apologies Wooly I read 5 per year as 5 per cent.

I assume since you think the driver is responsible for not stopping in case the lights on the crossing were not functioning correctly, that you yourself do indeed draw to a halt at all traffic lights regardless of which light is showing, just in case. If so, I think I have been stuck behind you on more than one occasion.
Andy

A European Rahinja.
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Re: Bloo*y school buses

If you look at AnO's link to Google Maps, or even better, look at the accident site on Google Earth, and the images of the crash scene, you will see that the bus was probably approaching the level crossing from the South, having left the Christian Bourquin secondary school, to the south of Millas, and turned left onto the D612.

This would have been the obvious shortest route from the school to Saint-Féliu-de-l'Amont, that is, going over the level crossing and immediately turning right towards Saint Feliu.

In the pictures of the accident scene, the position of the bare trees corresponds with the line of poplars to the SE of the crossing, and the wreck of the bus, fence, and gantry are in front of the trees, on the east side of it. These show that the train was travelling eastwards, and hit the left side of the bus on the crossing.

Given that the bus driver reportedly said that she was trapped between the barriers, when in fact this is not possible, as the barriers are only on the approaches to the crosssing, is it possible that the driver turned left into the wrong (left hand) lane of the D612, and stopped on the tracks when she arrived at the closed barrier?

Even worse, was turning left onto the LH lane of the D612, then crossing to the correct lane a habitual way of beating the barrier?

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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