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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Op said..."The property is worth the asking price to the right person"

That is true I guess, but only if you have money to burn. Which you don't, you admitted that earlier.

Rule number 1 when looking at properties in France....take no notice of the asking price. Really, no point. Prices in France are random.

Work out the market value of the house and offer that less renovation costs. If it is being advertised at 50 k and you think it is worth 10 k.....then offer 10 k. If you do offer 50k they will think you are a mug......... and you will lose a lot of money.
ner ner nee ner ner!!
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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Well, no other renovation costs needed. Been on sale for 6 months. Owner did a lot of work but had to move out due to disability. He didn’t want to leave.

It’s got 2 double beds. Fully detached. 3 miles from nearest village, 5 miles from nearest town.

Thanks for the advice. As I said the only issue is the fosse and for someone who wants to live there permanently, they can put in a micro. The vendor says he is willing to reduce based on that premises.

For the right family, it’s a bit of a bargain.

I guess you’d need to see it. Or take my word. I’m no fool.

Plus we are hoping for a home, not an investment.


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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

"I’m from Manchester, we are naturally cynical and don’t spend money easily"

I'm from Bolton. I know 😂😂

The other thing I would say, just cos I can, is...think hard about being out in the sticks to the extent that you have to drive five miles to get a loaf. It's lovely for a while. That's all.
Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard.
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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Rule number 1, ignore ALBF until you have read as many of his previous posts as you can. Once you have realised that he is a one trick pony you will learn to take his attitude and advice with a huge bucketful of salt.
It’s impossible for anyone who has not seen the house in context to say that the house is overpriced. You will know how it compares to others in the area and I would guess that from what you’ve said you’ve found it to be good for the money. With all the recent work carried out on it, if it’s habitable apart from the fosse it sounds worth looking at to me.
The trouble with rural France is there are a lot of vacant properties and turning your back on one with a problem is often good advice. There are exceptions though wher3ca bit of effort is well worth while. Almost any rural property will have a fosse, they are the norm. An area that ALBF knows nothing about.
In my commune a Mancunian bought a holiday home about five years ago. We are now good friends. It had no fosse and he had a micro-station installed. Everyone including SPANC knew it was going to be a holiday home but the fosse was approved. I believe the potential problem is that on his installation there are two electric pumps which normally need to be switched on.
The big shock to me was how big the micro-station is, it’s a much bigger than my 5000l fosse septique and still has an equally large run off area. I believe that the terminology is more to do with the way the system works than the physical size.
If you really want the house tell them that you will pay the original asking price if they arrange and pay to have the fosse installed. They are the locals, they will find it easier to arrange than you. SPANC will assure that it is a good installation and complies.
If you really don’t want to walk away there are options.
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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Welcome to the forum Sherlocked.
I won't say anything about the house you are currently looking at, but I would like to offer some advice if you decide against it and decide to look elsewhere.
I would be very wary about a paddock or garden on the other side of the road. I've seen one or two very quiet country lanes become very busy in the summer, and especially with Satnav, people just won't believe that taking their camper vans down it is not a good idea.
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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

QUOTE Sherlocked
Well, no other renovation costs needed. Been on sale for 6 months. Owner did a lot of work but had to move out due to disability. .... the only issue is the fosse ...
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I absolutely sympathise with the poor vendor. His fosse probably works perfectly, but SPANC in their wisdom have condemned it - as they have 95% of perfectly-functioning fosses in France.

I believe the present owner does not have to do anything, but on the sale of the property the buyer is supposed to carry out the necessary work within 12 months.

I sold my French cottage a year ago, and at the last SPANC inspection - when my perfectly-functioning 25-y-o fosse was found “non conforme” for the lack of a grease filter (that was not obligatory at the time of installation) the guy said there would probably not be another inspection for 10 years, due to lack of resources.
I suspect my (French) buyers, sensibly, will do nothing about replacing it until they are absolutely compelled to.

And for you, it might have been worth the risk - except for the problem with access and lack of available space if you DID have to do the work.

As I said earlier, I am afraid - sadly - I would walk away from this one.


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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Some beautiful properties in Orne, Sherlocked.  You will find some other house to fall in love with, more than likely.  I guess you already know that it is blood curdlingly cold in winter.

I love the churches in that area and Bagnoles de Lorne is a charming little town and has spa watersSmile [:)] to boot.  Also has a casino and an auditorium where they stage charming little shows.  Now you are bringing back lovely memories for meSmile [:)]

Apprendre une langue, c'est faire un voyage différent chaque jour.
from Fle pour les curieux
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Re: Fosse septique - we are at an impasse

Like L'Oiseau we sold our french house last year, with an old nonconforming fosse. But which had worked fine for us all the time we were there.
"I suspect my (French) buyers, sensibly, will do nothing about replacing it until they are absolutely compelled to."
Same here.
But to the OP, yours sounds a bit more complicated. Especially the location of the fosse.
You need to weigh up the costs. If you like the place so much, that means a lot.
I guess a new fosse septique costs about 10,000 euro to install.


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