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French High Street charity shops?

It seems a pity that there is an apparent dearth of charity shops in France; not Emmaüs which is rather different, but those run by the big charities etc. This, imnvho is a loss to the country. In smaller towns it would fill up empty shops in the Main Street and provide a space where goods are sold seriously rather than being dumped in piles.
Does France not need these shops, is it a question of pride, taxation or what?
Any thoughts guys?
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Within an hour or so drive of me every single brocante and troc shop has gone to the wall. Every now and then someone tries to open a new one, lasts for a few months and closes. I guess there just isnt a market for piles of manky old plates, incomplete sets of Ricard promotional glasses, massively heavy imposing old furniture that doesnt fit in modern houses, CRT tvs, piles of foosty old books and the occasional filth-encrusted kitchen appliance.

Given the outrageous price of running a business, utilities, wages and the crazy taxes, I guess its hard to make the books balance for a couple running a brocante out of an industrial unit and having an average turnover of maybe a few quid a day.

On the other hand, glossy Cash Converters type pawn shops seem to be doing well selling obsolete laptops for the price of a new one from Conforama, flatscreen tellys and countless numbers of mobile phones. Probably because they make it their business to buy them for a fraction of their worth from people hard up financially and make then believe its a good deal, then convince people slightly better off financially but maybe not well off enough to buy new stuff that its a good deal to buy used for almost new prices.....its a marketing dream.

I just dont see charity shops being economically feasible in any way at all.
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I think Dave sums it up really. Charity shops are totally unfeasible in France. The depot vente type shops are just ridiculous in terms of what they sell and the prices they sell them at. Their stuff should be given away to people who need it. It has no value.

We buy DVDs from cashconverters. A DVD usually costs around 1 euro at cash converters and to rent the same on Itunes (for example) costs 5 euros. I don't know how that fits into this discussion.

But, their secondhand tech stuff is priced for very stupid people. But very stupid people do buy it. !!!!!
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A charity shop opened a year or so ago near to us and it seems to be doing well. Everything is clean, sorted into various departments and is sold at very low prices. It's only open on two days a week, but there are always lots of people there.

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Exactly what Dave says re the depot de ventes around here, always opening and going bust, you would think people would realise that its so last century and have more imagination, dont get me wrong I miss them but each one that opens becomes a personal Financial disaster for the owners and their families who are the guarantors, and thats gets a bit closer to explaining why so many obviously non viable businesses open and then go bust.


The banks have one sole aim, to lend money to good risks and by doing so leverage more non existant money to make further loans with, the seed capital for this is the funds of you and I which if we are Lucky might bring in 0.1% but can be lent at 10% and generate further ethereal money to lend.


But how could a brocante or another equally unviable business be a safe risk for a lender? It isn't and the banks dont give a 4X in fact they want them to fail so that another muppet can come along and borrow money to commit Financial hari-kari, they have the extended family on the hook as guarantors, the business plan etc is just a hook to lend money which is their raison d'être.


Same story for the cash convertor shops be they in the UK or here, they dont give a monkeys for the stuff they have in the window, behind each piece of tat is some unfortunate who has borrowed money against it at an usurious rate.


The charity shops that do do well are those supported by massive subventions with a much more altruistic intention of réinsertion, we have one like that here where I buy furniture to give a scabby chick re-looking so that a future generation can strip off all the hideous chalk paint (super cheap in Action) and say "can you believe some pr@t in the noughties (that would be me) could deface this lovely dark hardwood piece of furniture in such a way

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For a charity shop to do well or even make a small profit to benefit the charity, people have to donate their unwanted goods for nothing. From what I see for sale at brocants and "LebonCoin" giving second-hand things away for free isn't in the French culture. They seem to think that because they have used and abused an article for 20 years it's worth more than they paid for it
In the part of England we live in; charity shops get rates allowances and are overwhelmed with donations.It's possible to find great bargains occasionally.
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Nick said <<From what I see for sale at brocants and "LebonCoin" giving second-hand things away for free isn't in the French culture.>>

We give English lessons at our local branch of AVF. One week with tge bestter group we based it on the National Trust, having visited Badildon Park and picked up various leaflets.

They were all very iinterested but none of them could understand why anyone should give away their land and/or property, in fact they were almost speechless.

As part of the lesson we discussed French buildings that have been left to rot away as either family members couldn’t be traced or couldn’t agree on what to do with it.

Occasionally somebody still brings the subject up, asks if we’ve visited ‘one of those big houses that owners give away’, as one put it a few weeks ago.

Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.

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The Emmaus and the other réinsertion ones around here I make regular donations to but in all that time I have never seen a single other person give a single thing, once I crossed the deputé there and he had his usual press entourage with him, he said "hello boy!" to me in English and we exchanged pleasanteries then the newspaper people wanted to take my photo and have the story of what I was donating and why, I refused saying charitable donations and acts should be private and personal but I could clearly see that someone actually giving them something was a front page event Sad [:(]


They both have several vehicles out most of the week doing house clearances, it would appear that people use them to clear out rather than go to the dechetterie which explains why they have so much old tat, the majority of what they collect just goes straight out again as recycling.


OTOH when I visit the big Emmaus at Amiens metropole there is a constant Stream of people donating quite good stuff and they have a lot of new old stock probably from bankruptcies etc, once again I get the impression that most stuff does not even make it to their shelves, they have an English (and German/Spanish etc) book section, the same old books stay there for ages but sometimes I find some good reads, not cheap but it is a proper charity so I dont mind, I gave them several boxes of my old English language books, marked up as they instructed me, they never made their way to the shelf so must have just been sold for recycling like most of their stuff.



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