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Re: Back to reality

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>You can call me Betty wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Each to their own, Teapot. I've been nothing but impressed by stuff I've bought from IKEA. And I don't eat eggs much, in any shape or form.</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
They do have some solid furniture but as I worked around so many new flats developments the amount of it I have taken to the various dumps is staggering. It's stuff that just doesn't move with people. Should be greatful as repairing it is a full time job but the owners won't pay as the items are cheap. Hulsta, like IKEA but better made.
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We are rural too Pat, though I do stuff like U3A which makes a big difference. I guess that I know the town where my daughter lives in the UK very well, no doubt it would be very different in an unfamiliar part of the UK.
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 Théière wrote:
 You can call me Betty wrote:
Each to their own, Teapot. I've been nothing but impressed by stuff I've bought from IKEA. And I don't eat eggs much, in any shape or form.
They do have some solid furniture but as I worked around so many new flats developments the amount of it I have taken to the various dumps is staggering. It's stuff that just doesn't move with people. Should be greatful as repairing it is a full time job but the owners won't pay as the items are cheap. Hulsta, like IKEA but better made.


Yes indeed, the furniture we lost in the flood 'cos it did not survive was all left by previous owners and was IKEA based or same type.  Our own furniture, lugged around several moves, all survived, albeit with slightly lighter coloured legs.  Covered in mud though, which took 2-3 washes to get it off, but hey, I can live with oak or such with lighter legs, looks used and "lived" with.

Judith
ex W1, via 47 and 11 and now [just] in 34, equidistant from Carcassonne, Narbonne and Béziers, where I hope we'll finally stay!!

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There's still a lot of money about in some parts of the UK."

I think what always surprises me is that people don't think twice about spending £6.00 on a cappuccino and a cake, or £20 on breakfast for the whole family. I don't know whether it's because there's a lot of money around or whether it's because the streets are littered with temptation. I sometimes miss that here, but on the rare occasions I get a craving there isn't a decent coffee shop for several miles so I don't bother. In UK just walking to the station I would be confronted by at least two!
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A cappuccino (medium sized) in Costa is £2.45. A café crème in most places in France, including our village bar, is €2.60.

As an aside, I don't suppose you've been watching "Flat Pack Empire" currently on BBC2? It's a behind-the-scenes documentary about IKEA. If you saw the levels of testing to which they submit their furniture, I'm guessing you'd be at least surprised, if not impressed (obviously, if you're predisposed to be unimpressed, it won't change your mind)
For example, in the last episode, they showed how they test the laminate on cupboard doors with water which is left on the surface on a cotton pad for 16 hours to ensure it doesn't bubble or delaminate.
I suspect a lot of their furniture that fails does so ultimately because it was assembled in a cack handed manner. Admittedly, their instructions don't help.
Our kitchen table is from IKEA. It must be 25 years old. I've sanded it, painted it, lime waxed it, painted it again...and the same with the chairs we bought to go with it. It's still as solid as a rock and of a shape, style and size I can't replace. It's survived kids from the time they couldn't feed themselves, through homework, craft projects, hot serving dishes, spills of every possible substance, and the first thing our vendors said when they popped back to pick up some post when we'd moved into our new house was "Oh, we like your table".
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Theiere wrote,

Oops, that was the biggest mistake, letting to anyone on the social.

I would disagree with that statement, the biggest mistake is, as Patf stated,

(all immigrants)

If these people play the rules correctly, it will cost you about 10K by the time they are gone. They will wait for you to evict them, and on the day the bailiff arrives, the nice council will have a duty to house them.
Until that day arrives, providing a home for them is your responsibility. Please don't forget to keep the boiler serviced,property insurance up to date, ( this will increase substantially at renewal due to the situation) smoke and CO2 detectors workings and the Legionella report up to date.

This is why unless you are prepared to use a 'donk' to remove them, never, ever, let out property.
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As I look after a lot of properties for private landlords, private management companies etc. The large percentage of people moving through these properties are "immigrants" and very little trouble with them.  Once you introduce the astute, highly skilled "social" tenants who know just about every trick in the book then it all goes downhill fast.

There are of course some good social tenants but they can also change in a blink of an eye should the need arise.    

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 You can call me Betty wrote:
If you saw the levels of testing to which they submit their furniture, I'm guessing you'd be at least surprised, if not impressed (obviously, if you're predisposed to be unimpressed, it won't change your mind)

Our kitchen table is from IKEA. It must be 25 years old. I've sanded it, painted it, lime waxed it, painted it again...and the same with the chairs we bought to go with it. It's still as solid as a rock and of a shape, style and size I can't replace. It's survived kids from the time they couldn't feed themselves, through homework, craft projects, hot serving dishes, spills of every possible substance, and the first thing our vendors said when they popped back to pick up some post when we'd moved into our new house was "Oh, we like your table".


I do know they test thoroughly but not on parts that take the strain so much. water on the laminate but the board fails at the edges.  sawdust glued together will take on humidity and fail, real wood can and does move with the seasons. I am not predisposed to anything, time changes, products vary and the chipboard chuck it away mentality is just adding to more landfill issues, not solely Ikea as many many companies have copied the production techniques.  
As I said some of their products are good, like your table but that is from a vintage which was very different to a lot of what they do now.

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