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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

 EuroTrash wrote:
................  I think you are on the right track in looking for a French resident who will agree to help you out by registering and insuring a car and putting you on the insurance policy as a named driver. Does this friend not have another friend who might help?

That's a great solution - until something happens to the friend.

We had a problem storing a houseful of furniture while selling one house before buying another.

A good friend, who owned a large farm nearby, where he lived alone, offered to store it for us. He was relatively young, but was found dead in his bed before we got around to taking up his offer.

If we had stored our stuff there we would probably have had no problems in normal circumstances, as there would have been some sort of paperwork or agreement to prove ownership.

But his first wife contested his second wife's right to the inheritance, and the farm was sealed up by the judiciary, with access granted only through a court order, pending the outcome of an undoubtably long legal wrangle.

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Proving ownership of a car not registered in your name might be even more difficult. Maybe an IOU to establish a debt would be useful, but this might not be appreciated by your friend.

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

Good grief what a thing to happen! I hope you got all your furniture back and it wasn't held hostage for too long?

Well obviously there would be no legal way to claim ownership of a car that hasn't got your name on the carte grise, there would have to be trust involved. There would also have to be trust by the friend that the OP will pay any traffic fines that are sent to him. So yes, maybe not such a great idea after all if the two parties don't know each other well.
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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

 EuroTrash wrote:
Good grief what a thing to happen! I hope you got all your furniture back and it wasn't held hostage for too long? Well obviously there would be no legal way to claim ownership of a car that hasn't got your name on the carte grise, there would have to be trust involved. There would also have to be trust by the friend that the OP will pay any traffic fines that are sent to him. So yes, maybe not such a great idea after all if the two parties don't know each other well.

I did say he died before we got around to taking up his offer Wink [;-)]

I'm afraid that plans involving "friends" and creative paperwork to circumvent bureaucratic problems are often doomed.

I don't even accept offers of the loan of a friend's car any longer.


On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

 nomoss wrote:

I'm afraid that plans involving "friends" and creative paperwork to circumvent bureaucratic problems are often doomed.

I don't even accept offers of the loan of a friend's car any longer.



I agree, quickest way to lose a friend.  Have Aussie neighbours who are only here for 3 months in the summer.  He already leaves all his keys with us and this month, we had to pick up a fairly heavy item for his house, coordinating with the shop, ringing up, signing for it, etc.

Then he wanted us to keep the item until he comes back next summer.  Now I am pretty easy-easy going but our sous sol is chock a block with the usual gardening stuff plus lots of furniture that I am waiting to put into our house.  As it is, we can hardly walk around the sous sol and I fear that either OH or I will trip and fall and break this damned thing he wants us to keep.

Apparently, he has told OH he doesn't like other people going inside his house in his absence.  I quickly lost it at that point and I took his keys and put his item into his house.  I told OH that if the Aussie doesn't like me entering his house, he can have all his keys back as, if it's such a big deal to him, then he shouldn't be asking us to be his key-holder.

Lots of other stuff like that so that I feel thoroughly put upon and that is probably the last time I do anything for him that would save him money and give me nothing but a load of inconvenience.

Not saying you'd act like that, OP, but I think it's best to find a legitimate way to do things and keep your friendsSmile [:)]



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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

 nomoss wrote:
I'm afraid that plans involving "friends" and creative paperwork to circumvent bureaucratic problems are often doomed.

I don't even accept offers of the loan of a friend's car any longer.

 mint wrote:

I agree, quickest way to lose a friend.  he can have all his keys back as, if it's such a big deal to him, then he shouldn't be asking us to be his key holder......................................................Lots of other stuff like that so that I feel thoroughly put upon and that is probably the last time I do anything for him that would save him money and give me nothing but a load of inconvenience.

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Boy, if I wasn't there 9 months of the year I'd welcome someone popping in to check things. Probably offer that you store stuff in my place. Very hard to take care of things from Australia. You would hope that in return for you being custodian of their chateau in their absence at least they'd be VERY appreciative and helpful when there. If all you get is a 'Ta mate' I'd be very curt. I'm not the sort to ask for help, but in some cases it'd be nice. If things end up being all one way, you do end up a bit disgruntled.

If you're going to make arrangements like that you have to see it from the other persons point of view (I mean them of you). In my case asking someone to register a car, I thought her being able to use it when I'm not there would be good. Yes, there is trust on both sides. The speeding fines and I would hope she'd maintain it (I thought an electric car would solve most of that).

I do wonder if being a selfish pig is an Australian trait or universal. I seem to be surrounded by terribly selfish people at home in Tasmania. I don't know if it's just my immediate surrounds, Tasmania, Australia, or does this happen anywhere in the world?

Me, if I plan on doing something that might affect my neighbours, I consider how to least inconvenience them. Putting in air con?, place the outside unit away from their bedroom. I abide by noise regs. On the other hand they do what they want, when they want. Power tools at 8pm - fine. Dogs barking at all hours, music blaring, swearing, pumps 24/7, wood heater smoke....the list goes on. (rant over).
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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

 mint wrote:
Lots of other stuff like that so that I feel thoroughly put upon and that is probably the last time I do anything for him that would save him money and give me nothing but a load of inconvenience.

Not saying you'd act like that, OP, but I think it's best to find a legitimate way to do things and keep your friendsSmile [:)]

I most definely agree, unfortunately it also seems the case if they are Australians.

They are very outgoing, and helpful in the extreme, but expect others to be the same, sometimes thinking they are asking small favours, when in fact they are asking more than they realise.

My wife and I found a house, handled the veiwing, offers, dealt with th Notaire over complicated land issues, and the entire purchase for close Australian relatives. They came to France just to sign the Acte, and left for a visit to the UK a couple of days later, en route home.

As soon as they returned home they sent me an email with a long list of further "favours" - dealing with workmen, furniture suppliers, etc., and couldn't understand why I told them enough was enough.

I apologised for my shortness next time we met. The response was "But we just asked you to make a couple of phone calls".

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H. L. Mencken 1880 - 1956

Some may not like his views, but what a prediction!
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Re: Mobile home park address ok to register vehicle?

I think that's more to do with the distance than that they're Australian. Probably extremely difficult to do that kind of thing from that far and a different time zone & language. UK people have a similar reputation in Australia. Hence - 'whinging Pom's'. Actually the whinging pom thing is more from how some are when they get here - they expect Shangri La and find it's just another place with good and bad points.

I remember a very funny TV show about UK people that had come here, but decided to go back. One woman didn't like the birds, 'not tweet, tweet like our birds, but shriek and squark' (I think cockatoos).

I had an English girlfriend that had emigrated with hubby and kids, then gone back, then come back to Australia. Later got divorced - turns out that was the problem, not the place. :-)

Maybe there's a good business in caring for foreigners French pads?
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